rucusincruc
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| | 03/13/09 at 06:00 PM | Reply with quote | #1 |
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Lately there has been a lot of reported discussion over the issue of the legalization of Marijuana. Personally, I'm not sure how I feel about it. I mean I don't think our society is geared for the outright legalization of the stuff. And let me be honest and forthcoming, yes I have partaken in a puff or two... or three, many years ago. I left that stuff alone after my 20's though. It just seemed to make me really tired, really hungry, or a combination of both.
Also, my Mother, who died of breast cancer in 2000, was a frequent smoker, both before and more so after her diagnosis and during her treatment. I saw first hand how it soothed her and took the edge off for her. She was in a lot of pain. I can see it's medicinal benefits in that regard. Sort of like an aspirin, just better I suppose.
Also, I do see how legalizing it would create a massive tax relief to us, the tax payers. I don't have figures right here in front of me, and it's more than likely a different number for any given jurisdiction, but I know a good portion of tax money goes to combating drugs. Also, it would essentially shut down a large portion of illegal drug activity, but maybe that would hurt the economy? Would that mean more unemployed people? I wonder how many people that have lost their jobs have resorted to growing weed in the basement as a supplemental income. Anyways, that's just a silly thought.
I guess my main concern is how it will be right out in the open if legalized and how that will affect children. I guess that's what concerns me about that the most. So, what do you think about it. Legalization of marijuana for recreational use, a good idea or a bad idea?
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allieewd
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| | 03/16/09 at 07:49 AM | Reply with quote | #2 |
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I dunno; I have pretty mixed feelings on this. I mean, we already have painkillers that work effectively--why would we need pot on top of vicodin? Or whatever? That doesn't make sense to me. I feel like legalizing MJ would just open the door to legalizing everything, because why MJ and not other drugs? And true, marijuana is one of the milder ones out there, but seriously, when our entire everything is governed by the courts, legalizing one gateway drug sets a weird precedent, I would think.
On the other hand, my old landlord used to come over and rant to me about how he wished drugs were legal. He had been a police officer once. He concluded that if everyone could just do drugs legally, life would be better because the people stupid enough to actually get themselves addicted to something would just have shorter life spans and then the police officers wouldn't have to work so hard, LoL.
Personally, I haven't figured out where I stand on it. I think it's nice to keep them illegal because a lot of criminals also use drugs, so if you can't get them on a crime right away you can still arrest them for drug possession.
Also, right on about the children. I think it would be really bad to have children think that drug use is okay. That's just asking for even worse SAT scores than we already have. ;o)
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| | 03/20/09 at 11:42 AM | Reply with quote | #3 |
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Sorry, I don't agree with alli. So since a certain pharma drug is legal, does that mean I am going to move on to other pharma drugs? Maybe the prescription acid reflux drug I am taking will cause me to seek out narcotic pain killers? I don't actually take any pharam drugs, but I don't see the logic in your comparrison. |
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| | 03/23/09 at 07:10 AM | Reply with quote | #4 |
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LOL, I think the reason you don't understand my comparison is because I didn't actually make a comparison. Sorry, my friend. I pointed out that in a world where we have Vicodin, there is really no point in using marijuana. Basically, we have effective painkillers, so we don't need currently-illegal drugs. Does that make sense? Let me know if I have to explain it again. I didn't know I was that bad of a writer!
The logic here is that we already have effective drugs, so illegal drugs are not necessary for the same function. Maybe you should reread my first response?
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| | 03/23/09 at 10:37 AM | Reply with quote | #5 |
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>>LOL, I think the reason you don't understand my comparison is because I didn't actually make a comparison.
<<I feel like legalizing MJ would just open the door to legalizing everything, because why MJ and not other drugs?>>>
Sure you did. Also, saying that legalizing MJ gives you mixed feelings because criminals use it. doesn't make sense either. For one, criminals use pharma drugs too. Does that mean we should outlaw pharma drugs? Second, not all users of MJ are criminals in your sense of the word. Yes they are breaking the law, but only because MJ is illegal. Legalize it, regulate it. It is a lot safer than pharma drugs. And no, I don't use it. But I don't have to use it to have a rational opinion on it.
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| | 04/03/09 at 07:13 AM | Reply with quote | #6 |
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For medicinal uses? I'm not a doctor. I say let them decide.
For every-day use? Not a chance. I really think that marijuana is much worse than people say it is. Alcohol and cigarettes are both terrible for you, yes, but those have been around for a long time, and we've learned how to deal with them as a society. Or maybe we haven't, but it will be a cold day in Hell when they pry my cigarettes from my geeky hands.
I'm a college student. And as a college student, I see a lot of kids around campus always stoned. It may not be physically making them ill, but it's certainly doing something bad to their minds, because they think things like socialism and outright communism are good, no joke!
I'm not trying to start some debate over the individual effects on different neurotransmitter pathways in the brain, I'm just saying: from a common sense standpoint, we don't even fully understand how aspirin works. Why should we legalize marijuana when every six months another study comes out contradicting the last?
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| | 05/07/09 at 10:12 AM | Reply with quote | #7 |
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Marijuana is a petty drug, it has been proven you cannot overdose on it and it is relatively harmless compared to many other drugs including alcohol. It has never been the governments place to parent over the people that they are sworn to serve in fact I believe we now have the tail wagging the dog.
Marijuana laws are unjust, immoral and just plain wrong anyway you slice it.
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michaelhill
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| | 07/01/09 at 04:29 AM | Reply with quote | #8 |
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It is apparent none here has ever used weed for medicinal purposes. I have had numerous brain tumor surgeries that has left my body with too many maladies that give me no recourse but to take pharma chemicals that are killing my liver and who knows what else.
I know the medical benefits of marijuana and my body does as well. I can't think of a better seizure prevention drug or one to ease hypertension. Sure, I may be looped for an hour or so but I am disabled, who gives a shit?
As far as pot leading to other drugs or legalization of a floodgate of other stuff - be realistic. You can buy a half gallon of the cheapest vodka for less than $20 and a carton of cigs for $40. That's a death sentence. However, society has come to accept those two substances as part of day to day life so there is little thought given. Any hooked on Vicoden and/or other narcotics is a drug addict and no different than an alcoholic or smoker. They are all physically addictive and are readily available. Pot is psychologically addictive at the most and not readily available.
The US government has succeeded with it's anti-drug propaganda over the years yet the phamaceutical companies can advertise anything the FDA approves on the airwaves. How many antidepressant, birth control, NSAID, erectile dysfuntion, anti-cholesterol, asthma, yeast infection, smoking cessation, diabetes or other drug commercials do you need to see to say enough?
How many commercials do you see for holistic medicine? Near zilch. Marijuana falls into that category.
As I prefaced, it is apparent none here has tried holistic medicine, certainly not marijuana, though most of you have used it recreationally. You can lie on here about that fact but you know otherwise. If you take an anti- hypertenive drug you could benefit from medical pot. Few states have legalizd it for medicinal use though it has been proven to be beneficial when used in certain circumstances. Some people grow their own. My own state has allowed it for use medically but one must first be arrested, go to court and hire an attorney to prove to the court your doctor is OK with it. He may have to appear as well.
That is about as backwards as life can get.
In most states possesion of an oz is an automatic trip to jail for a set period of time as well as a hefty fine. You can lose your driving license in some states.
That is a big waste of taxpayer dollars. 1/4 of prison inmates are in for drug related crimes that involved no violence yet their room and board are a tax burdeon on the public. Wouldn't they be more useful working and paying taxes along side those that are addicted to prescription opiates or alcoholics that manage to function?
I am not a liberal by any means but the line drawn in the sand makes no economic sense.
Consider that the first president of the USA actually cultivated hemp at Mount Vernon and urged others to do the same. Hemp was a cash crop in this country at one time and has many uses.
Google the word hemp and research it. Medical usage is but one benefit.
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| | 07/01/09 at 06:13 PM | Reply with quote | #9 |
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Very nice post, very enlightening as well! I appreciate your input. Can I send you some freebies? Send me a private message with your mailing address and I can send you a care package!
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michaelhill
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| | 07/02/09 at 01:32 AM | Reply with quote | #10 |
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Thanks... It would be a nice gesture but not worth the time in jail that goes with shipping through the mail on both of our behalves as we would both be implicated.
I have a friend in CA that....
Yep, the story only starts like that and the ending ain't pretty.
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| | 07/20/09 at 03:23 PM | Reply with quote | #11 |
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I think its a bad idea. We already have a country thats obviously full of crazy people (afterall, they did vote Obama.  ) Thats all we need is a bunch of stoners going to Washington! However, retail food sales would probably increase due to the "Munch Effect" ! |
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